S Sat. Girl scout camp, LB (errand boy), Ted - debut (LB junior) and myself did an interesting ride at case. I luckily made myself a pair of studded tires out of sheet metal screws. Did they work - just ask LB and junior.. "yup".. Awesome ride, case was a skating rink. Did a 7 mile loop, and I must say LB and LB junior kicked ass for riding without studs. LB is teaching ted the finer nuances of riding - such as carbo loading, smoke signals, bike websites - mtbr.com, wheelie drops, and the long list of excuses you can use to not mountain bike.. Excellent ride that ended in pouring rain, I think its safe to say the ice has melted now. pm